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Help with videos please!

  • Help with videos please!
  • Hey everybody,

    this might seem like the most-novice question in the world but how can I upload .mov files to the videos library? I am using Sitefinity 4.3.1885.0.  I have many other questions that I could ask, but this is one of my biggest issues I am dealing with seeing as how I am making a training/support site for my company and there are already 30+ videos in .mov format.  Is there a plugin, or some setting I can turn on/off to make this stuff happen?

    Thanks in advance.
    -Chris
  • nvm, the Content ---> Files & Documents allows it.  It is pretty odd that Content ---> Videos wouldn't allow you to upload all sorts of videos.  I think it should be able to, but only use the 'fancy' silverlight control for WMVs if needbe.
  • Question ?

    Which user can play mov files via Internet Browser ?
    Near no one. I think its better to think about re encode your videos to a MP4 file.

    This format is supported by Silverlight and a lot of other players. (like the HTML5)
    But the Guys from Telerik didn´t support upload of MP4 files.
    What a shame, because the Silverlight media player of them should have option to play this.

    So a video Module which supports different Fileformats are welcome and help to improve the platform.

    Only my ....
    Jens
  • Hello Tobias and Chris,

    Sitefinity 4.x should support all possible video formats, as long as they are playable by Silverlight. In order to enable the .mov and .mp4 extensions go to Administration -> Settings -> Advanced -> Libraries -> Videos -> Allowed file extensions and enumerate the extensions that you need separated with a comma. The recycle the app pool and you should be able to upload such files.

    All the best,
    Lubomir Velkov
    the Telerik team
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  • Hi,

    thanks for answer. I found the extension trick before.
    And yes i can upload then a mp4 file. But the player didn´t play it. :(
  • @Tobias,

    Did you check if it actually didn't play?

    SF currently only fully supports .WMV (meaning it can create a video thumbnail etc) but the player works fine over here with an .MP4 although there's no preview thumbnail. If you receive a 404.3 error it only means IIS isn't aware of how it should handle the type and you can update your web.config system.webserver section with the following:

    ...
    <staticContent>
        <mimeMap fileExtension=".mp4" mimeType="video/mp4" />
    </staticContent>
    ...

    Jochem.
  • Hi thanks for the tip,

    i done it, but i get always Fail to open media in silverlight player.
    when i use mp4.
    Ok -- correct now. Now it works after i re upload the video.

    Thanks for help
  • Buy the way.

    support for smooth streaming Content would be helpfull here.

    We also have a lot of traning videos. and we are on way to reencode it to smoothstreaming content.
  • @Tobias,

    Glad it worked the 2nd time around. I'd love smooth streaming/seeking and the new html5 goodies as well in SF. For now you can upload the video files manually (outside of SF) and reference them directly to make things work though...

    Jochem
  • Hi Jocjem and Tobias,

    Sitefinity's RadMediaPlayer (the one we use to play the videos) supports the following formats (not extensions but codecs used to encode the file with) -

    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc189080(v=vs.95).aspx 

    As for the streaming - there is a logged PITS issue that is related to this problem - 

    http://www.telerik.com/support/pits.aspx#/details/Issue=8712 

    You can vote for it.

    All the best,
    Lubomir Velkov
    the Telerik team
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  • @Lubomir,

    Thanks for the links and the reference to the PITS issue. With Windows 8 being released in the fall this year and IE10 (in integrated mode, read default on most desktops/tablets/etc) NOT supporting plugins (so the RadMediaPlayer won't work there) wouldn't it be better to jump start a new media player discussion instead of focusing on a bug that will be obsolete in 2-3 release cycles?

    Jochem.
  • Hello Jochem,

    You raise an interesting question here. I will make sure this matter is discussed with our architecture and UX teams so they are aware of the future possibilities. The problem here is backward compatibility - even with the Release of Windows 8, it will not be adopted right away and we will have to support two platforms anyway.

    All the best,
    Lubomir Velkov
    the Telerik team
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  • Slavo to the rescue!

    This morning Slavo Ingilizov wrote a blogpost on how to build a custom HTML5 video player instead of using the normal Silverlight version... Check it out! 

    Jochem.
  • just as an update:

    Microsoft confirmed that for Windows on ARM desktop it will also not allow 3rd party plugins, so on here also no Silverlight support.

    @Lubomir
    I'm not sure the 'it will not be adopted right away' is a valid argument. It's much easier to convince a client to upgrade his browser than to tell him he shouldn't have bought a new pc. But you're right, backwards compatibility has to be implemented... and here's Microsoft to the rescue: The HTML5 Player Framework.

    The same team that developed the Silverlight player, has released their first (open-sourced) version of a HTML5 player. Based on the best practices they've used in the Silverlight version. Their first release was targeted at across-the-board playback (ios/andriod/web/wp7) and it already supports fallback for Silverlight or Flash, playlists and captions.

    The UI is skinnable (yeay for a new RadVideoPlayer + telerik skins) and will soon offer plugins that'll allow DRM and the major video ad networks. And to save the best for last "The same control strip and JavaScript API for both the HTML5 video tag and the Silverlight player"

    Jochem.