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  • IMO, Dynamics minus repository concept would be a better product.

    any comments?

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  • HA HA HA HA! Good one.

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    From: Amir Aziz

    Sent: 22 July 2002 01:37

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    Subject: Dynamics witout repository

    IMO, Dynamics minus repository concept would be a better product.

    any comments?

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  • Amir,

    That is known as ADM2 or possibly 4GL and has been available for

    purchase for several years now.

    Sincerely,

    Brian K. Maher

    Principal Technical Support Engineer Phone : 781-280-3075

    Progress Software Corporation E-Mail: maher@progress.com

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  • But there we do not have stuff like dynamics lookup , dynamic combo etc.

    do we?

    Brian K. Maher wrote:

    >Amir,

    >

    >That is known as ADM2 or possibly 4GL and has been available for

    >purchase for several years now.

    >

    >Sincerely,

    >

    >Brian K. Maher

    >

    >Principal Technical Support Engineer Phone : 781-280-3075

    >Progress Software Corporation E-Mail: maher@progress.com

    >

    >If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything

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  • And where do you think the attributes for this stuff gets stored? TA DA! In

    the repository.

    Seriously, if you want to use Dynamics the way it was intended, the

    repository is going to play a big part. I guess you don't have to if you

    don't want to.

    Cheers,

    Neil

    -Original Message-

    From: Amir Aziz

    Sent: 22 July 2002 01:53

    To: dev@icf.possenet.org

    Subject: Re: Dynamics witout repository

    But there we do not have stuff like dynamics lookup , dynamic combo etc.

    do we?

    Brian K. Maher wrote:

    Amir,

    That is known as ADM2 or possibly 4GL and has been available for

    purchase for several years now.

    Sincerely,

    Brian K. Maher

    Principal Technical Support Engineer Phone : 781-280-3075

    Progress Software Corporation E-Mail: maher@progress.com

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  • Yes, but without the repository, you couldn't have dynamic lookups, dynamic combos etc.

    Beginning to make sense?

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    From: Amir Aziz

    Sent: 22 July 2002 12:53

    To: dev@icf.possenet.org

    Subject: Re: Dynamics witout repository

    But there we do not have stuff like dynamics lookup , dynamic combo etc.

    do we?

    Brian K. Maher wrote:

    Amir,

    That is known as ADM2 or possibly 4GL and has been available for

    purchase for several years now.

    Sincerely,

    Brian K. Maher

    Principal Technical Support Engineer Phone : 781-280-3075

    Progress Software Corporation E-Mail: maher@progress.com

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  • When you drop an sdo in a window, information about the sdo is stored

    in window itself.

    In the same way dynamic lookup information could be stored in window.

    and yes this would be another product. not 'dynamics'.

    i could use these wondurful stuff in my application (which is adm2 but

    not based on dynamics)

    Regards,

    Amir

    Neil wrote:

    And where do you think the attributes for this stuff gets stored? TA DA! In

    the repository.

    Seriously, if you want to use Dynamics the way it was intended, the

    repository is going to play a big part. I guess you don't have to if you

    don't want to.

    Cheers,

    Neil

    -Original Message-

    From: Amir Aziz

    Sent: 22 July 2002 01:53

    To: dev@icf.possenet.org

    Subject: Re: Dynamics witout repository

    But there we do not have stuff like dynamics lookup , dynamic combo etc.

    do we?

    Brian K. Maher wrote:

    Amir,

    That is known as ADM2 or possibly 4GL and has been available for

    purchase for several years now.

    Sincerely,

    Brian K. Maher

    Principal Technical Support Engineer Phone : 781-280-3075

    Progress Software Corporation E-Mail: maher@progress.com

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  • Amir,

    There is a similar concept to Dynamic lookups and dynamic combos available

    in the normal Version 9 ADM2 - smartselect. Although this works in a

    different way to the lookups and combos in Dynamics - the concept of one

    object (dynSelect) being used several times based on its context - is

    similar to how Dynamics does it. The main difference is in the fact that in

    ADM2 the attributes as to which fields you want to view, enable, etc are

    stored in the source code of the container whilst in Dynamics they are

    stored in the Dynamics repository.

    There is absolutely no reason why you couldn't take some of the dynamics'

    objects (such as dyncombo, dynlookup, etc) and run them directly from source

    code without the repository. All you would need to do would be to change

    how the objects are constructed - instead of taking the data from the

    Dynamics repository, the data would come from the containers source code.

    There are many advantages to adopting a repository approach to development,

    however. These include the ability to support multiple interfaces to the

    same business logic; the ability to "adapt" to new interface trends (such as

    Windows XP, WAP, DHTML, etc) by changing the rendering programs; and

    improving interface inheritance whereby a modification to a class object

    will effect all sub-classes of that object.

    I do agree with you, to some extent, that it would be nice to be able to run

    some of the new Dynamics' features directly from source code (maybe someone

    would like to create some example programs of how to do this ). In this

    way some of the new features could be used within a standard ADM2

    application without ICFDB having to be connected.

    Where this is a feasible option this has, to some extent, already been done.

    For example, the dynTreeView program required a wrapper to the Microsoft

    TreeView control. This was done in such a way as to allow the TreeView to

    be embedded within a normal ADM2 application as well as within a Dynamics

    application without the need to have the ICFDB database connected.

    The above is only my opinion and does not, necessarily, reflect the opinion

    of Progress Software.

    Hope this is of some help.

    Gary.

    Gary S Clink

    Consultant

    Phone: +44-(0)1753-216300

    Direct: +44-(0)1753-216308

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    -Original Message-

    From: Amir Aziz

    Sent: 22 July 2002 12:53

    To: dev@icf.possenet.org

    Subject: Re: Dynamics witout repository

    But there we do not have stuff like dynamics lookup , dynamic combo etc.

    do we?

    Brian K. Maher wrote:

    Amir,

    That is known as ADM2 or possibly 4GL and has been available for

    purchase for several years now.

    Sincerely,

    Brian K. Maher

    Principal Technical Support Engineer Phone : 781-280-3075

    Progress Software Corporation E-Mail: maher@progress.com

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  • I would like to know if some ISP (or others) have successfully

    implemented a Progress Dynamics based project.

    I need to convince someone that it is indeed a viable option for a

    conversion projct.

    Regads and thanks,

    Amir

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  • LOTS of people, but I am not at liberty to divulge names. Dynamics V2 is

    also due for beta towards the end of August - you may want to give this a

    try if you have the time.

    Anthony

    Anthony D Swindells

    Lead Architect, Progress Dynamics

    Progress Software Corporation

    aswindel@progress.com

    -Original Message-

    From: Amir Aziz

    Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 7:00 AM

    To: dev@icf.possenet.org

    Subject: DYNAMICS IMPLEMENTATION

    I would like to know if some ISP (or others) have successfully

    implemented a Progress Dynamics based project.

    I need to convince someone that it is indeed a viable option for a

    conversion projct.

    Regads and thanks,

    Amir

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