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  • Great, when I get that far, I will open it in EA. I have it and that is why I would be interested to see what you have done. If you can look in the beta forum, there is one of my early efforts in the doc and code I just posted there.

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  • Thomas, the recordings were tested with IE 6. I can drag-n-drop the executable or open it directly from PSDN in IE with no problems. We are checking on any issues with Firefox.

  • If I drag GettingStarted Recording.exe over an IE6 window, then I get a choice of Save or Open. Since I have already downloaded it, Save isn't useful. Open causes it to open in Firefox, not IE. I am getting the same results with the recordings in under the hood.

    BTW, the Under the Hood organization could be better. Each of the downloads has at least one identically named file, so one is inclined to think that one needs to unzip each one into a unique location. Tedious.

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  • Another typo in the Under the Hood web page:

    Supply Chain integration (B2B) integration

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  • On the Installation Guide page, it indicates that IIS is optional unless one wants tht Webspeed consumer interface. When I click on AutoEdgeSetup 1.2.exe, it complains that IIS is not installed and quits.

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  • I appear to be stuck trying to get this installed. I was hoping the Installation Guide would give me some alternate procedures, but it looks like it wants to use the same tool that won't do anything without IIS.

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  • I just tried both Opera 9 & Firefox 2.0. Both worked without problems. If your still experiencing problems with FireFox, try extracting the .exe files first then simply drag the main HTML page onto Firefox and all should work.

    HTH

    Mike

  • The link on the Guided Tour page to the web portal has been removed.

  • For at least one example, extracting and dragging seems to work. I'll let you know if this takes care of all of the videos.

    I'd sure like to install the app, though. I'm not sure I even need it to run, but I'd like to be able to look through the code. Not too keen on having to install IIS on my workstation just to get it up.

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  • Warning: Just looking at the recordings... (wow!!, a lot of them!!)

    Question: All the validations are only fired trying to save the data?. What about quick validations in the UI?. It´s necessary to duplicate the bussines rules in both tiers?. Some guide to read/look at?

    Regards,

  • Sorry about the installation problems. We are working on removing the IIS requirement during the install. We hope to post an new install executable in the next day or so..

  • Despite the flurry of problems, my compliments on the contents. The Camtasia routines provide a nice overview ... if being a little redundant ... and the Topics of Interest documents are a great resource.

    Now, if I could just get the code ...

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    But I hope there is something other than headphones in the offing since I just got my phones from the first month's contest.

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  • BTW, I broke down and installed IIS ... now I have to get AppServer running ...

    The one possible downside to the richness of this application is the complexity of the environment one has to create in order to install and run it.

    I have had a quick look through the AutoEdge EAP .... I think this is just super. It is a wonderful example where one can look at model and code with a reasonable amount of substance. Of course, one does have to deal with the perversion of using .p and .i, but ...

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  • Question: All the validations are only fired

    trying to save the data?. What about quick

    validations in the UI?. It´s necessary to duplicate

    the business rules in both tiers?. Some guide to

    read/look at?

    Yeah, basically we do the validation on the server. This might not be what you'd do in a real application, but we did put the focus on the back end and how validation is done in the Business Entities, and how errors are sent back to the client.

    Some of these validation checks could be done client side, and only those that require the Data Access layer or other Business Entities would be done server-side. However, you might still want to duplicate this validations on the server. they might be redundant in some cases, but you might have the Business Entity called from a client that you don't control, and you can't predict whether the client has validated a field or not.

    We do show you some examples, but there's certainly a lot more options to do this. From simple client-side checks to asynchronous AppServer calls that do some validation in the background when you leave a field but without blocking the UI till they are finished, there are a lot of different ways to tackle this. Maybe a good topic for a discussion here or a potential white paper?